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Relentless here, in this discussion of Texas Terroir I would loved to have seen what the two Cabernet Sauvignons blended inti the Becker reserve could have done on their own. The Tallent Cabernet Sauvignon I tasted at your house was as good as any Texas Cabernet Sauvignon I have tasted in a long time. (I sure wish TAJ could taste it) The wine Becker bottled is VERY good but I would have loved to

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I know you to be the relentless advocate of High Plains fruit; however, the Becker Reserve was a blend of High Plains fruit from the Newsom Vineyard and Mason County fruit from the Tallent vineyard.

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I agree with your assessment of St. Gen's wines. I drink them (I used to drink a lot of wine in various categories and price points before I planted a vineyard) and find the quality to be good at their price point. I am a St. Gen fan.

The disconnect I see is not between consumers' perception of the quality of Texas wine and their purchase of the wine, but between

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It would be interesting to know what percentage of Texas wine is sold in the tasting room vs other outlets - Tim Dodd at TX Wine Marketing Institute will know.

The wines from St. Genevieve I have tasted in the last few years were competitive with Australian and Californina product at the same price point. (And since most were from CA and Australia - they should be!)

Their

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Don, you're making some great points about the big business picture of Texas wine, many that I hadn't really considered. But from a consumer's point of view, and a wine enthusiast's, there is a very different picture.

People purchase Texas wine for a number of reasons, and St. Genevieve is purchased because it is super duper cheap. For---what is it, six bucks?--you can buy an entire

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2006-07-18T20:57:00.000-07:00

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St. Gen is a fine case study for us. Here's a winery (last count, I think 57th largest in the nation) that is selling most of its product in Texas. It's in the value price range and, this year, has been able to successfully increase its price (at the retail level) by about 25% without diminishing volume sales.

Texas consumers continue to buy St. Gen and its other

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2006-07-18T20:09:00.000-07:00

Please pardon my grumpy jump to conclusion. My air conditioner's not working so good.
You're right to say that a Texas syrah cannot be compared to Coonwarra or Cote Rotie, and probably never will. But I think the quality issue goes beyond personal taste. When you're talking about per capita production and consumption, you have to factor in the fact that the mass of that production comes

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2006-07-18T17:31:00.000-07:00

TAJ,

Certainly did not mean that there are not many fine palates within the industry like yours and those of Jennifer and Bobby. I used the word "chatter," not as a descriptor for a substantive discussion like your blog attracts, but to convey my assessment of a great deal of misconceived perceptions of quality.

Regards,

Don

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2006-07-18T13:45:00.000-07:00

"I suspect that a lot of the quality chatter, inside and outside of the Texas wine industry, is promulgated by folks who simply have not had significant experience with diverse styles and type."

I hope by "chatter" you didn't mean us, Don. 'Cause that would be exceptionally arrogant. And arrogance betrays poor breeding.

You're really wrong, by the way. I chat about the

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2006-07-18T11:59:00.000-07:00

Texas wineries, as a group, sell 95% of their production in Texas. This one fact leads a reasonable person to make two conclusions: 1) Texas consumers find Texas wine products principally acceptable at their current price points, and 2)there is little business need for distribution outside of Texas. Texas wineries, collectively, have a 6.1% share of the .75 - 1.5 litre volume in Texas. This is

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2006-07-17T07:42:00.000-07:00

See, I'm thinking it's the opposite, most of the time: Texas winemakers concentrate on the varieties that are name-recognizable, and try to grow them in places where they don't do well enough to produce excellent wine, instead of looking for grapes that are hardier, more disease resistant and happier being grown in Texas. Chardonnay and Cabernet have done poorly in the Hill Country, as far as I

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2006-07-17T06:33:00.000-07:00

Part of the Texas problem may be that some wine makers want to make what they like and not what the consuming public likes.

Jim Johnson's first batch of El Quapo was outstanding, maybe the best bottle of Texas red wine I have ever had.

But Jim decided he didn't really want to make it that way again (at least that's what I heard) and a dramatic start was lost forever.

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2006-07-15T11:18:00.000-07:00

Hey Bobby,

Glad to hear you from you. It does my heart well that people like you and Kim McPherson and Jim Johnson are preaching the gospel of Texas wines. I think people need to understand that Chardonnay and Cabernet are just nor going to cut it except in a very few places. There are so many hotter climate varieties becoming available. I know that Viognier is somewhat fashionable

Jeff,Thanks for posting. Let me comment on your ob...

2006-07-15T06:54:00.000-07:00

Jeff,

Thanks for posting. Let me comment on your observations.

1. Absolutely correct, we need to plant vineyards where they will grow wonderful wine and we are, it just takes time. Don't lose heart.

2. We are learning fast by trial and ERROR (quite a bit of error as ya'll have noticed)

3. I will not say a thing here but I might nod my head approvingly.

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